Fish spine bent I wanted to feed my fish a little extra because of a 2 week trip I’m going on soon, however when going to feed the fishes I found one near a plant, alive but with a bent spine it’s completely alive but I need tips! Oh I forgot to mention, I have a 29 gallon tank, 6 guppies and 4 neon tetras, and It has been about a week since the last platy died and my remaining platy has been just fine. Anatomical structures similar to limbs appeared in lobe-finned fish, whose fins are fleshy and partially covered with scales (Benton, 2015). A lot of people see a curved spine and immediately jump to that conclusion - I did once. his back is like an upsidedown v. Otherwise known as scoliosis, bent spine is a result of both genetic and environmental factors. Articles. For almost as long as I have had my yellow glofish, is has been a runt with a curved spine. Rainbow fish can take pH from 7. It's hard to estimate how much to feed thousands of fish, but I do my best to estimate. Joined Dec 13, 2003 Messages 2,867 Reaction score 0 Location Sleeping yep,another one. Messages 11. Betta fish curved spine is definitely an uncommon occurrence. well, seeing as it it multiple fish with shrunken bellies and bent spines- and you have had one die with pineconing/raised scales, I would only be able to assume it is contagious. Vitachem is beneficial for fish with a bent spine. It's about 2 months old, and seems to be growing, swimming, eating and pooping normally with it's siblings. there are many reasons for bent spines. As far as I know it isn't curable, but it is extremely contagious to all fish. There is a divider between the two of them. Others, not so likely. By understanding the causes, implementing prevention strategies, and seeking expert advice for treatment, it is possible to effectively manage and even prevent this disease in tropical fish populations. bent spine (most fish will have this as they are in pain causing them to hunch their back giving a bent spine look) 7. Feed your betta fish a balanced diet: Overfeeding can be prevented by feeding your Fish small amounts of high-quality food two or three times a day. This can happen as a result of genetic I had a female guppy for a couple of months, she always had a humped back, but last week she looked really ill and died within a few days, then on Friday another, once What is nonsense is you saying inbreeding is the usual cause of bent spines which is not the usual cause. It can be noticed as a curvature in the spine when the fish is viewed from above or the side. Read this article to learn all about the condition and the treatment. Messages 169. 4. I have had my neons for a year now and was wondering if this is common or a sign of old age? How long do I had a fish recently die on me, he developed a bent spine just like that overnight. 189 posts If the fish are showing any other symptoms of TB, I would definitely take them all back. Just my Hello, I noticed today when feeding my 10 gallon guppy tank with 4 male guppies that one seemed to have a curved spine that was described in an article. According to fishyfarmacy both sporazoa and TB can cause bent spines. 5=5 gallons needed) So you should have had at least a 5 gallon to keep both in the same tank. May 12, 2020 #1 Okay so to start. Norm explains diseases and other factors that cause fish to have a crooked spine. well, seeing as it it multiple fish with shrunken bellies and bent spines- and you have had one die with pineconing/raised But fish also have scoliosis, just like humans but more obvious on fish, causing a bent spine, which would have been caused by either genetics or a vitamin/mineral deficiency, which may be the cause as well. This is commonly referred to as fish tuberculosis, piscine tuberculosis, acid-fast disease or granuloma It is extremely common for guppies to suffer from bent spines. May 13, 2020; Thread Starter Curved spine can be injury, old age, vitamin deficiency, fish tb, internal parasites. I am currently treating the tank with Melafix as I also noticed this fish had white stringy poo but he also has a mixture of reddish poo too on occasions. You had two fish. My Cardinal Tetra began having a bent spine so I began dosing NLS pellets every day with Vitachem. I only just noticed this today but because I have around 25-30 fry he could of been like this forever. I recently got a betta fish (Salem) and he was doing great, he’s in a 5 gallon tank with live plants a filter with sponge around it and he’s easily able to swim out of the low suction and 2 heaters (currently looking for one 50 watt) along with a constant ammonia reader, I understand that nitrites and nitrates also could harm him but I plan on buying a master kit soon. In that case, you will need to euthanise him asap with clove oil or by dropping him in ice water ( not putting him in the freezer and letting him gradually freeze!). The main identifying element of the diseases is a curvature in the spine when the fish is viewed from above or the side. Betta fish, contrary to popular belief, are not as tough as they appear. In this article, we will assess both these conditions to help you identify them sooner and prevent further Guppies can be born with a bent spine, and develop it suddenly or progressively as they reach adulthood. i have a sunset platy with a really bent spine it didn't have it an hour ago so i'm unsure of what it is any help ?? thanks Alex Bent Spine / Lethargic goldfish Sick Fish Help Hi Everyone , i have been taking care of our neighbors goldfish and in the last few days it’s been very very lethargic . B I want can't find what is difference between all three deformities? How would I Rainbow Fish bent tail area. planted 150 gal Discus, planted 10 gal cherry shrimp tank, 29 gal. A bent spine in guppies is almost always the result of either scoliosis Two of the causes of the bend in your fish body are tuberculosis and scoliosis brought by inbreeding, genetic factors, and poor diet. Could you fill out the emergency template so members can better advise you? Since your fish did not have a bent spine when they were younger and HI there, I currently have a 10G tank set up with 3 neon tetras. I cannot stress enough the importance of a full liquid test kit. So progressively since I bought my killi from a fairly decent aquarium that sells regular and unique fish about 4 months ago, it’s spine has become more and more bent. But I wouldn't go on breeding them. pop eye 10. Internal parasite signs are. black angel Retired Moderator. Thank you. You can't mend a bent spine, once the fish starts to look like its suffering I would end its misery. They knew Aquarium Forum. Bent Spine Betta. Jan 28, 2023. Feeding a well balanced diet can help some if it is a vit. I'm sorry hes dying tho. I've read that it could be fish TB, now I'm wondering if I should destroy this colony and plants, and start over. Bacterial infections won’t cause bent spines or c shape spine but can cause fin rot. Betta with bent spine. dropsy 9. Messages 5. Is the fish also thin looking. two of my Mollies must have got stuck in my live plant my Creamsicle, Molly died, but the white Molly seemed OK. As you can see in pics, has lost color too. (2. This is commonly referred to as fish tuberculosis, Let’s talk about the triggering factor of bent spine and humpback in guppies. . his back bends downward in the middle - so his tail is much lower than his front end. My water parameters are good they live in a 110 litre aquarium I use reverse osmosis water and the filters have been changed a couple of weeks ago other fish are good just these two. I'm not sure if that's the issue now, or if it's the stress from being bullied. During my tank rescape I placed the fish a 14 gallon for about 3 weeks as the rescape involved me completely stripping the tank - heater & cycled filtration My blue "opaline" gourami which I've had since 1995 has developed a bent spine, and sometimes gasps for air. Be very careful when handling fish infected with TB as they can pass the disease to you. OP. Sadly this disease is untreatable. Freshwater Fish Scoliosis (Bent Spine) Freshwater fish scoliosis is an unusual sight among aquarium fish. A. I did not have this many with bent tails last year. P. Apr 28, 2020 #1 I’d remove the fish to a QT tank if you have one. The other disease that can cause the spine to bend into a u-shape is Myxosoma cerebralis. The fact is, the curved spine is the most noticeable disease that affects guppies. Hello everyone! I have a female Betta rubra in a ten gallon by herself (her mate is in another ten gallon and their roughly eight offspring are in a five, but that's beside the point). does anyone know what might be wrong? should I treat it at all? or be Personally if that was me, I think would just keep that fish, let it live life in a nice tank rather than taking back to LFS where it won’t get chosen by anyone due to its bent spine and left in a overcrowded LFS tank too small for it. Also Read: Molly Fish Constipation. 5 inches typically. If a fish has a bent or curved spine, it is most likely infected with a Gram-positive mycobacteria (Mycobacterium marinum or M. I had 5 bent spines in a litter of 13, from a female that was 3-4 months old. I'm guessing that this is fish The most humane method I am aware of is to put the fish in an ICE cold bucket of water. tail is drooping. Scoliosis is caused by a variety of causes, none of which is infectious. Again, there is no treatment. Always keep an eye on your water conditions too. Hi there, I came home just barely and found my cory cat upside down with a bent spine, I flipped him over to find that he was still alive but unable to move Log in Register. There is no cure for Fish TB. The most common cause of a bent spine in guppies is a condition known as Scoliosis. Today upon noticing the My parents made the trip out yesterday to shop and get me some fish for my new tank. So glad to hear it's not TB, though I'm still worried! The tank has been going for about a year and a half and is cycled. deficiency. I do have more fish this year, but I also have twice the capacity. There are two reasons behind bent spine in zebra danios; scoliosis and fish tuberculosis. It can be TB, a tumour, a cyst, or baby guppies. carrohason Discussion starter. This can make it harder to specify the causes and treatment plan. Later that day the way, Molly got stuck. Bent spine can mean old age, injury, birth defect, vitamin deficiency It almost definitely isn't fish TB. I've only experienced a bent spine on a fish one I have 4 zebra danios and one of them has a bent spine. He is one of the Fungus survivors. They are particularly vulnerable to diseases and ailments, despite their lovely and vibrantly colored fins. 5+2. Curved spine can be injury, old age, vitamin deficiency, fish tb, internal parasites. I found this Bent spine problem is irreversible, and if your guppy has a bent spine, there can be some serious issue going on, which we will discuss in this article. What's new. I have 4 zebra danios and one of them has a bent spine. Hes very pretty. For what its worth, the bent-spine fry I kept alive generally had long lives and didn't seem to suffer unduly. It is swimming and active and I change the water every week and a Any fish look skinny, as I thought I saw a fish that look on the thin side in the pic. I had a golden wonder killi fish that developed bent spine later in its life. If you are new to betta fish keeping, please check out our caresheet and wiki. Do any fish show symtoms of a bent spine. What is Guppy Bent Spine Syndrome? Guppy bent spine syndrome is a disease called Scoliosis which affects not only fish but humans also. Look for A bent spine in guppy fish can be caused by several factors including pregnancy, genetic issues, inadequate nutrition, poor water quality, and disease. The two most common reasons for bent spine in guppies are fish tuberculosis and scoliosis. In most cases, when a guppy has a bent spine, the chances are they may not survive. I really really hope it isn't TB cause I will FREAK OUT lol . Popular tropical fish like guppies develop a bent spine and unfortunately, there is no cure. As some of you may know, extremely poor water quality can cause bent spines in fish. I've read some fish can get bent spines when they are sick just before they die. Took him home, and he lived a long life and was the quickest and spunkiest cory cat in the tank. A bent spine in fish can be caused by anything growing inside the fish that puts pressure on the back. Joined Sep 3, 2010 Messages 110 Reaction score 0. 5. It causes the bent spine and sometimes the fish will start whirling in a circle, so it is sometimes referred to as whirling disease. The bent spine the way it looks like in this photo, won't hurt the fish. A bent spine is a significant problem in fish because it will compromise the guppy’s quality of life. Other causes for bent spines are neon tetra disease (but, the fish wasn't a neon, so that can be ruled out) as well as growth Ive had 3 mollies and 1 platy do the same, bent back and start wasting away. And I also read that it is likely that other fish in the tank, especially more susceptible species or immune-comprised fish Feed the fish daphnia to help it poop (can order on Amazon; my fish loves it) Put the fish in a tank or bucket of water with 1tsp epsom salt for 15-20 mins, repeat 2x daily until condition improves. Fish with this disease will have trouble swimming and will have a shorter lifespan. Only antibiotics that offer any hope for this is Kanamycin and Streptomycin; but has never been effective once the fish has the bent spine. Symptoms: A visibly bent or curved spine. Member. Your fluctuation in pH will cause issues with fish as the pH needs to be constant. His spine is permanently bent and I’m pretty sure the gills have always been that colour which look the same as the other fish. He died the next day After noticing the bent spine. You can try treating the tank with kanamycin (Seachem KanaPlex) and some Boyd's VitaChem. 10. The curvature of the spine can cause problems with movement, breathing, and digestion. Test your water daily, API Master Test kit is good. Lewis96 New Member. Knowing that's a symptom of tuberculosis, I immediately put the fish in the quarantine tank. Betta fish are tropical fish and require a heated environment inside of the tank. A little while ago I changed her water (it's a small tank so I should be changing it frequently) long story short she's stressed, the tank was way too cold and she spent three days refusing to eat, her spine looks a bit crooked, and now Not all fish will develop all the symptoms. So let us find out. While a curved spine is not a sickness in and of itself, it is a symptom of TB, a relatively rare disease that affects betta fish. Establishing a nitrogen cycle is an important part of keeping your fish healthy. blisters & sores People think only humans develop a bent spine, surprisingly, guppies also do. She dies and hour after havig them, I now only have 2 from the litter one with a very very bent spine and the over can't swim for long periords, there in the main tank to life out there days, I only once thought about having them PTS, but that was when there was 5 of them, and I knew I could'nt SOOOO SAD. Similar to that, sorta. Keeping them with peaceful community fish like tetras I only asked , as I bought a lovely blue female, and she is huge, (for a Guppy) but also does have a bent spine (compared to my other Guppies). (Picture below). Sone basics first: 1- she stays alone in a tank, no other fish 2- her tank used to be quite small, but a few HI all, I've noticed one of my platy fry in my grow out tank has curved spine. 0 and yours is 8. It typically causes bent spines and many times causes fish to stop eating. If you want to be careful, you can take the one fish with a bent spine back even in absence of other symptoms; though I've kept such fish in the past and they've lead long and healthy lives. I would like to treat my tank before getting new fish and losing them like I was before. Guppy can inherit tuberculosis The main cause of tuberculosis in fish is poor water conditions matched with a weakened immune system. When I came home this afternoon I noticed that my platy's spine was curved in an S shape. This can happen as a result of genetic abnormalities, injuries, or disease. She seems to be behaving normally and eating but just now has Another danio with bent spine :(zERostArk07; Jan 27, 2023; Zebra Danio Forum; Replies 3 Views 296. Its body is kind of curved, almost as if the fish is trying to turn to look at its tail if that makes any sense. Once the spine curves, nothing I know of will cause it straighten again. However, betta fish can sometimes develop health problems, including a betta curved spine also known as betta scoliosis. I havent had a problem with disease or parasites and havent been to First, you need to check your water parameters. They are particularly vulnerable to diseases and ailments, despite their lovely and vibrantly colored I bred some honey gouramis and one of them came out with a minor bent spine. Bent Spine from columnaris Rapid Spinal Deformation If the single arched humpback comes on rapidly, over the span of a few days, it is probably columnaris bacterial infection and all the fish in the aquarium need antibiotic laced food as soon as possible. 0 to 8. He was one of my favorites! RIP Gazpacho! So my guppy’s have bred and I’ve had these fry for about a month now and they both have bent spine they’re both eating swimming well they just look odd. The reasons vary from genetics to bad water conditions. I noticed my Betta, Chelsea, with a bent body after I fed her in the morning and returned home that night Zebra Danio losing weight and bent spine. Sep 9, 2010 #3 Wilder said: Did you buy the fish with a broken spine. This has me concerned, as I recently read it can be a sign of fish tb???! He's a little sluggish lately -kind of drooping around. Some common causes include swim bladder disease, malnutrition, and physical trauma. I think it could’ve swallowed an air bubble, but I’m not sure. This unusual condition, scientifically referred to as scoliosis, is caused by a combination of genetic and environmental factors that result in the curvature of the fish's spine. My local fish store said that it is not contagious, as most fish diseases that are, will sweep through the tank in a shorter time period; but also that there is nothing I can do. Bent spines mean born that way, electric shock can cause bent spines, old age, fish tb, internal parasites. I would take a pic, but she's a little shy, and I lost my camera on vacation. It eats and swims just fine. Please check out our guide to the nitrogen cycle to learn more. So the red thing dosn't look like a ball of mincemeat with whitebeats in it as that can be internal parasites. It seems to float a little. I only asked , as I bought a lovely blue female, and she is huge, (for a Guppy) but also does have a bent spine (compared to my other Guppies). Fins in most lobe-finned fish did not, however, have a rigid connection to the spine; these features progressively emerged during the Devonian Period when the first amphibians with a tetrapod body plan appeared, such as the The living jawless fish, i. In this post, we will discuss the causes and what you can do about them. Most actual bent spine problems are deformities from birth Making sure the fish can reach the surface, and that he does not have a ton of current to fight against. Even the healthiest goldfish need water that is rich in mineral value and oxygen, but if your fish has experienced high nitrates or any level of nitrite, it will need these conditions even more. bent spine. Continue to watch for any signs of parasites. 3 Triggering Factors Of Hump Back & Bent Spine In Guppies Hereditary factors. I had an emerald cory cat with a bent spine that I named Squiggles. Posted January 15, Hello, what can cause a fish to develop a bent spine and sunken belly other than tb? I have lost a lot of fish like this but still have several originals who seem fine. There are several other names for this disease. This article will discuss the causes, symptoms, and treatment options for curved spines in betta fish. There would be other symptoms. I saw him in a tank at Petco and I just could not leave the store without him. If the fish looks in pain I would end its misery. Is there another disease that causes bent spine? Debbie G. She is typically a very shy fish that I almost never see, but over the past week she has developed a noticeably bent spine (giving her a hunchbacked appearance) and is now spending almost all His spine looks like it was minorly dipped before and as he aged it just has emphasized, it could continue to look worse though as he gets older. This article will examine the causes of a bent spine in guppies and offer prevention tips. Bent spine is a common symptom, making fish appear curved or misaligned. Photos. I mean, I thought Walmart treated their fish bad (They are selling fruit tetras though, meanie Walmart) I have a guppy with a bent spine. Bent Spine/Tail/Skeleton. Aug 4, 2008 Hi all, I am new to this sub, but not to bettas or fish keeping in general. It wouldn't surprise me if this poor fish was left deliberately because of it's deformity & the Tench are easily overlooked as they are bottom dwellers & well camouflaged. I assume that it happened because the water temperature was quite low for some days - and he might have caught a cold or something. this is my betta, salsa. Fish with Bent Spine? L. Symptoms of the disease include a bent or curved spine, difficulty swimming, and an overall lack of energy. She's a few weeks old. One of 4 fish I recently rescued was a chromis and he is in horrible shape. I'm not sure that's the case here, but it certainly will not hurt to offer the vitamin drops. I've been searching past threads about curved spines, but most threads referred to dying/dead fish. I kept him in a fish birthing container in my 55 gallon for the first day to observe. I bought beautiful color betta fish with bent spine, when I was researching on bent spine I came to know 3 points 1 genetical 2 too high nitrates during shipment 3 T. A curved spine is a noticeable disease that affects guppies, and it can be caused by several factors, including scoliosis, pregnancy, inbreeding, poor diet and tank conditions, and fish tuberculosis. There is no treatment available for bent spine in your zebra danios. This is commonly Swimming is often tedious for guppy with a curved spine, this disability leads to stunted growth, and other healthy fishes usually bully them. Guppy bent spine can result from several conditions including Scoliosis, Tuberculosis. I'm going to be out of town overnight, but a family member is going to keep an eye on the I have a goldfish that appears to have a bent spine. Some of the primary causes for a bent spine include: Causes of Bent Spine in Aquarium Fish Guppies can be born with a bent spine or develop it in adulthood. For some reason danio some types fish tb. The bent, C-shaped spine is a symptom. Your guppy will have a bent spine Symptoms of the disease include a bent or curved spine, difficulty swimming, and an overall lack of energy. But if Why is my fish's back bent? If a fish has a bent or curved spine, it is most likely infected with a Gram-positive mycobacteria (Mycobacterium marinum or M. . Popular Goldfish bent. Sometimes, but not always, a bent spine is due to lack of certain vitamins. The two most common TB is very slow acting and nearly always 100% fatal, it is also highly contagious not only to fish but can in rare cases lead to full human TB, if the bacteria get into an open There are many reasons for a fish to have a bent spine. With old age the fish can develop weaker bones if they are not kept in hard water with lots of minerals, a bit like osteoporosis in people. In the last few days, his spine has started to curve and bend. kuruptedseed Fish Fanatic. Hmmmm! Tags: It has been about a week since the last platy died and my remaining platy has been just fine. The bent spine could also indicative of TB. Straightened out within roughly 2 weeks. Red inflamed anus, or enlarged anus. oldsalt777 Well Known. Don’t overstock your aquarium, and if any fish are fighting or being bullied you may have to think about re-homing some. OP what are your water parameters? What size tank and what is your stocking? O. My zebra danios have a bent spine. I had Fish TB comes to mind, given the curved spine, strange lesions, and lethargic behavior. Don't share anything between tanks. It seems that many fish nearing the ends of their lives get bent spines which usually match one of the above problems but sometimes do not. It is also a common sign of advanced age in a fish, as many fish develop the "crook" as they near the end of their life. I know I have seen a few danios at my LFS that have curved spines that are healthy and fine . I see it pop up from time to time in my Endlers. Both conditions can impair the guppy’s ability to swim I’ve seen this in fish with scoliosis after a history of serious, bloodstream infections with Aeromonas / Pseudomonas – and I THEORIZE that these fish SOMETIMES get Betta fish, contrary to popular belief, are not as tough as they appear. No bent spines. TB will usually have sores and other symptoms. My tank currently contains Platy, Molly, Guppy, Corydora, Hillstream Loach, SOOOO SAD. 2 which can have an effect on you rainbow fish, but I can be mistaken and the fact that female fish can be sorority they aren't community fish and only experienced fish keepers can do this with or without problems, but can you? You will have some problems with the sorority at some point if you don't know Scoliosis, a common affliction found in freshwater aquarium fish, is characterized by a noticeable curvature of the fish’s spine. Swim bladder disease is a condition that affects the swim bladder, which is a gas-filled organ that helps fish maintain their buoyancy. Better to euthanize the fish. Guppy bent spine is caused either by If your guppy has a bent spine, then, unfortunately, the outlook is pretty bleak. Angry_Platy Sleepy Chook. littleredridingmech Active Member. Scoliosis or Broken Back Syndrome, Curved or Twisted Back in Pond of Koi Fish. Genetic deformities can often be identified through visible signs like a bent spine or irregular body shape. I noticed one of my betta smaragdina fry's back seems to be bent/broken. His spine is extremely bent and to the point he can't swim or even really move from the surface. I had a heater break down once, in a tank with platy fry, and several of them developed bent spines. I have a goldfish that appears to have a bent spine. This fish has been like this for several months. Guppies can develop a sudden bent spine, be born with it, or it may occur during adulthood. Messages 280. The bent spine phenomenon in guppies is not only fascinating but also concerning for both fishkeepers and researchers alike. Euthanasia is often the outcome. This gentle backbend is excellent for beginners. In the last 6 months I bought and bred a batch of Zebra Danios. The common symptoms of tuberculosis are a bent spine, Hello everyone, I apologize in advanced if this is a repeated topic. Is the spine bent. It isn't crooked it's just he can't swim right. It's also able to get people sick. Get a glass of water, leave it to one side for 48 hours and then test it again. There will be nodules on the internal organs of the infected fish. Listlessness: Neon tetras are typically active swimmers. Any signs of darting, or erratic swimming. Curved Spine Disease in tropical fish can be caused by genetic factors, poor water quality, or malnutrition. e. It is possible the fish was born deformed and it became more noticeable as it aged, was injured previous to your purchase, is very old or as suggested it could be fish TB. Some potential sources of curved spines and drooping tails in guppies include: I have recently had a couple of my neon develop a bent spine. Curved Spine Disease in tropical fish is a serious condition that can cause significant health issues and reduce the quality of life for affected fish. He shares a tank with a female. His tail has sort of collapsed as well, but until now he has been swimming and eating normally. A bent spine can indicate internal parasites, but a back like charlie described is probably broken. And by the way, I'm not saying don't do it - breeding fish is one of the most rewarding parts of the hobby - He is able to swim around but his back end seems to be floating up behind him as his body seems to be bent vertically. Unfortunately, these diseases are not treatable. These are mostly out of your control, but some of them can be controlled. So what are the causes and the treatment of the bent spine in goldfish? Let us discuss this below: Fish Tuberculosis and scoliosis are the two leading causes of the bent spine in goldfish. One died this morning and I noticed a second one with this condition. A fish with this condition (fish tuberculosis with a bent spine) is often also anorexic. It almost definitely isn't fish TB. On this Video I'm gonna show you How to Treat the Guppy Fish Bent Spine Disease Before it will spread to your community Guppy fish Tank!👉 Maxgold Guppy Fis Bent Spine/Tail/Skeleton. Fortuitum. I’ve had it for 2 years and it seems in relatively good health. Yes one fish of the 5 remaining is a scrawny little #28###. Joined Jul 12, 2008 Messages 88 Reaction score 0 Location Orlando, Fl. I unfortunately don't have a second tank His spine has always been a little bent, but like I said it was never an issue. , hagfish and lampreys (cyclostomes), were long believed to be “degenerated” forms of ostracoderms, the armored jawless fish which were predominant in the Ordovician and Silurian (485 to 419 million years ago), after losing the dermal skeleton and paired fins [9,10], as well as the spine in the case of the hagfish. Going back through pictures it was actually completely fine till about about a month and a half ago then started spending a lot of time at the surface of the tank. It is hard to see in the picture, but it juts out in two separate places and his rear is more tucked than it should be. I would avoid ever breeding any fish with a bent spine but otherwise watch closely for any further symptoms or worsening, provide perfect water, and wait and see what happens. I have two fancies in 155 litre tank (and one black widow tetra, I know it shouldn't be in with goldies but Its a throw back to the days when I believed the things LFS's told me). Marx339 New Member. I'm not an expert in disease but, a bent spine is sometimes a symptom of nitrate poisoning. After the water was cycled and I transferred my fish. The main causes of a bent spine are scoliosis and tuberculosis (TB). one of my zebra danio glofish has developed a bent spine over the past few weeks. Certain vitamin deficiences can result in spine curvature. rasbora and danio tank, 29 gal Praecox rainbow planted tank and an empty 29 . Spine deformities are semI common in fish. Guppy bent spine is caused either by Bent Spine Syndrome in guppies has a few causes. But as long as he's eating well, there is still hope. OP . It got worse slowly and about one year after it started, he was no longer able to eat, and I used clove oil to euthanize the pore guy. The leading cause of Bent spines are almost solely the territory of two ailments which are Scoliosis and Fish TB. You have to look for additional symptoms to determine the reasons definitively. zERostArk07 Fish Lore's aquarium fish forum Bent spine problem is irreversible, and if your guppy has a bent spine, there can be some serious issue going on, which we will discuss in this article. L. Freshwater Freshwater Fish Aquarium Plants. Breed for the breed, not for the money; the words any REAL breeder would understand. Whenever he stops swimming his tail goes downwards and then he struggles to stay straight He looks healthy and has a normal appitite. Bent spine in itself is not indicative of fish TB. Scoliosis in guppies is caused by an imbalance of the muscles that run along each side of the fish’s spine, which results in one Bent spines are common in guppies. I have an albino zebra in my tank that also has the bent spine. Treatment options include improving water quality, The most common reason for the bent or curved spine of the Neon tetra fish is the infection caused by the gram-positive mycobacterium known as the Mycobacterium Marinum or M. There is no treatment. Use a headrest If it is TB, chances are he won't recover. A bent spine is always a reason for concern, given that it signals the presence of an often incurable condition. It is also a common sign of advanced age in a fish, as many fish develop the "crook" We have about 10 koi and over the last year or so a number of the fish have developed very bent backs and it has got to the point where the fish cannot swim straight Hi My guess would be the bent spine is a sign of a genetic defect, becoming more apparent as the fish grows. Also internal parasites can cause rupture of the organs. Looks like a bent spine on the Koi, no problem I bet they are both loving their new home & plentiful food. standing and awareness of “bent” fish, I will explain how fish get “bent”, describe other baro-traumas in fish, and discuss some useful methods to both prevent pressure-related mortality and increase survival of fish suffering barotraumas. May 25, 2016 #1 Does the top one's spine look bent? They don't like to sit still and I haven't seen it from above so I'm not sure but he looks different from the others. Neither does it bother them. You can't mend a bent spine. HI all, I have a zebra danio who seems to start developing a bent spine, almost with a hunch back appearance, along with inflamed gills. It’s characterized by a curvature in the spine that looks like the letter S. This disorder can be Tropical fish, such as guppies, can develop a bent or curved spine due to a condition called scoliosis. Sadly, once the spine has been severely bent, it’s usually impossible Guppy bent spine syndrome is a disease called Scoliosis which affects not only fish but humans also. Customer: My fish got stuck and now his spine is bent what can I do to help him? Veterinarian's Assistant: The Vet will be able to answer your question, plus any follow-ups you may have. Scoliosis is a condition that causes the spine to be abnormally curved, resulting in an S-shaped curve rather than the normal straight line. 1 basically had no fins, was still small, and was the only one left, so Petsmart let me adopt him beginning of December I think. the tank mates did not bother him or horde his food, so I just let it be. About 2 weeks ago I noticed that one of my danios looks bent. But I vacuumed up a lot of extra food when I got back from my trip (As I mentioned, my mom overfed while I was away last week), so the water quality probably took a turn for the worse while I was gone. Unfortunately, the condition I did some research on that already and I don't see any other symptoms. Hello, what can cause a fish to develop a bent spine and sunken belly other than tb? I have lost a lot of fish like this but still have several originals who seem fine. See this section for more on fish tuberculosis. It is available at most small pet stores and they will know it if you ask for "Vitachem. The general freshwater rule of thumb is 1 gallon per inch of fish per fish. They had watched there self between some rocks If it was bent as you look at it from the side and didn't look this way before, it could be fish tuberculosis, which unfortunately is a terrible disease that is untreatable and will likely infect your other fish. Curved Spine: The fish’s spine may become noticeably warped or bent in severe cases. 5 mynameisnobody. Tuberculosis and It's possible that your fish may be suffering from a condition known as swim bladder disorder, which can cause the fish to appear bent or have difficulty swimming. Bent Spine. I How long have you had this fish? About 6 months How long ago did you first notice these symptoms? A few days ago In a few words, can you explain the symptoms? A His spine has always been a little bent, but like I said it was never an issue. Being thin or bloated. If you've only got one, though, it was probably a birth deformity. I'm sure u gave him a good life while u could If the fish are showing any other symptoms of TB, I would definitely take them all back. The other one was in a huge school of neon tetras, but was the only one It is possible the fish was born deformed and it became more noticeable as it aged, was injured previous to your purchase, is very old or as suggested it could be fish TB. When a fish develops Scoliosis, the spine Hello all, I have a Jack Dempsey Cichlid that I have had for about 9-10 years now, and it recently and suddenly has a bent spine and is now laying on an angle at the tank bottom (see attached photos). Watch for tetras spending excessive time hiding or resting at the bottom of the tank. Flossie Aquarium It does sound like fish TB to me, but someone a little more experienced might have another answer for you. It's extremely rare, Platy with bent spine swimming vertically. The reason in fish OVER 6-8″ is being carried in a net. His spine was a little crooked early on, but has become increasingly bent. Aug 14, 2022. I've only experienced a bent spine on a fish one In the case of Sterlets and Sturgeon a bent spine usually indicates that the fish has had a lack of food, and once the fish has bent over their is not much that can be done really. Thanks for your advice, I'll be sure to keep a very close eye on it for any other symptoms! Guppies are beautiful creatures, but they are susceptible to a range of ailments, including a bent spine. The tail could be stress. It might be a birth defect? Possibly? Did you ever see normal fish in there? I’ve seen this in fish with scoliosis after a history of serious, bloodstream infections with Aeromonas / Pseudomonas – and I THEORIZE that these fish SOMETIMES get “microabscesses” in the spinal cord, *or* an Aeromonas osteomyelitis – of the spine – and so I’ve seen (as a postulated result) a rash of broken backs among an admittedly low percentage of Most actual bent spine problems are deformities from birth Making sure the fish can reach the surface, and that he does not have a ton of current to fight against. I do find dead fry every day, maybe 30-50, mostly in the 1/3 to 1/2 inch size, but a few larger ones now and then. Betta fish are 2. That's just a guess at the moment but I'll need to see how the care looks. Scoliosis (Bent Spine) Scoliosis, or bent spine, in molly fish can be caused by genetic factors, poor nutrition, or bacterial infections. Rainbow Fish bent tail area. His spine curves down towards the tail like a fish with dropsy but it also curves like an “s” when looking from above. Oct 20, 2011 #5 OP . Please check out our guide to When I came home this afternoon I noticed that my platy's spine was curved in an S shape. " Local Fish Stores (small pet stores) will have it but not petco or petsmart. Another cause of bent spine is variation in temperature. It manifests as a noticeable curve in the fish’s spine, which can affect swimming and overall health. Betta fish, also known as Siamese fighting fish, are popular pets due to their vibrant colors and unique personality. He has no other dropsy symptoms. My parents made the trip out yesterday to shop and get me some fish for my new tank. I adopted 2 tetras to have friends for the only one remaining due to a stupid filter that used to kill my others. When I got her she was really active and swam to the top of the tank whenever I passed by. Its really a guessing game as to why, internal parasites, hexamita, genes, isn't eating because of an underlying problem. The most common cause in fish under 5 inches is nutritional and genetic. Why Does My Guppy Have A Bent Spine? If your guppy has developed a bent spine this is a sign they have a disease, either scoliosis or fish tuberculosis. Don’t settle for parameters that are in the comfort zone; reach for the top. I attempted to add a molly fish about a month ago but it The bent spine is usually a sign of malnutrition, with the leading cause a parasitic infection. 5 Great Ways to Modify Fish Pose: Try these safe modifications and variations while building strength and flexibility: Keep the legs bent; Keeping the knees bent and feet rooted on the floor in the Fish Pose alleviates compression in the low back. I read that a bent spine is from extreme cases where the cysts cause it to bend so I'd most likely see other symptoms already. Has plenty of life to it, eats, swims easily and is not picked on. Yesterday I knowingly bought a betta with a pretty deformed spine. I noticed him becoming emaciated, and he started to lose his color. Still has a healthy appetite. Fish TB can cause raised scales and bent back / spine / body almost like it's been twisted. My albino Cory has thrived in a 15 gallon tank for 6 months and overnight its spine has bent sideways and it swims like that, only bringing the tail back straight to turn around. Betta fish have a curved spine or crooked skeleton, which is caused by the spinal cord being twisted. Stressed fish often have lower immune system function. It might be a birth defect? Possibly? Did you ever see normal fish in there? *bent spine or deformed skeleton The only true way to diagnose the disease is through a necropsy. The shock to the fishes system will kill it very quickly and it is said the fish doesn't feel it I just upgraded from a 10g to a 30g tank. Sometimes, a drooping tail is merely a sign of distress in fish. Bent spine has no treatment, making euthanizing the only option left for your In your case, the best thing you can do is to allow the fish to live his life in the main aquarium - and prevent it from being sucked or harmed again :) In my case, my Betta had a bent spine. 13. The bent spine is a severe issue in your goldfish that seeks immediate action. Not as social with the others as it used to be but other than that seems ok. This condition isn’t a disease in itself but a symptom of a variety of potential underlying problems. Alise Caritas one of my Endler fry has a bent spine, it's at about a 30 degree angle. This brings us to the bent spine syndrome resulting from two potential disorders – scoliosis or tuberculosis. Ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and pH. May 13, 2020; Thread Starter I know you get the occasional fish with a "kink" in the spine, or missing eye, or funny fin, or whatever, but these really were bent at practically a One time in one of my lfs i saw a bent danio! it looked to have a bent spine! A. Here are some of the common causes of Bent Spine Syndrome in guppies. Betta Fish Care Bent Spine? Jump to Bent Spine? Jump to Latest 934 views 7 replies 6 participants last post by Blue Fish Sep 30, 2013. like snazy new born premature If a fish has a bent or curved spine, it is most likely infected with a Gram-positive mycobacteria (Mycobacterium marinum or M. Any other fish that could Sadly, no, you can’t treat TB. Alise Caritas Reduce Stress On Your Fish: Stress is another big factor that can lead to fish diseases in your tank. There are many potential causes for a fish swimming sideways or with a bent spine. PraptiPanda Active Member. I finally stop getting fish dying as in my last post and now something different. I checked the parameters and they all seemed fine (ammonia-0, nitrite-0, nitrate- about 20). You can prevent bent spine in your zebra danios by avoiding overcrowding and maintaining ideal water parameters in the tank. Avoid keeping aggressive tankmates: Betta Fish are aggressive and should not be kept with other aggressive Fish. Bent spine can mean old age, injury, birth defect, vitamin deficiency Tropical sunset Fish Fanatic. I think he got stuck under something in his tank and it deformed him, causing him to die also. The skinny appearance is not surprising as they've lived virtually wild since 2018. I hate to have to say this but guppies have become big carriers of fish TB. Treatment options include improving water quality, adjusting the Guppy tail drooping and bent spine are common signs of fish tuberculosis (TB), a bacterial infection that affects the skeletal system and internal organs of guppies. he seems to be swimming and eating and playing like normal - but he looks very odd now. I hardened my heart and allowed my angelfish to eat them - they showed no sign of recovering. These nodules are like the lesions that can appear on the skin of the infected fish. But as long as he's eating well, there is Guppies can be born with a bent spine, develop it suddenly or progressively as they reach adulthood. But it hard to say if it was every fish tb, I would rather look into internal parasites. I havent had a problem with disease or parasites and havent been to A fish with this condition (fish tuberculosis with a bent spine) is often also anorexic. Physical laws of nature:Boyle’s Law Laws of physics govern barotraumas in animals. Jun 18, 2017 #1 I've had fry born with deformed spines that grew out to be perfectly normal fish. Pregnancy. Knowing that's a symptom of tuberculosis, I immediately put the fish in the quarantine Hello again TFF, My swordtail have bent spine (kinda reminds me of Hunchback of Noter dame), Ive tried every med including Levamisole, Metronidazole and Praziquantel but it And, guppy bent spine refers to the situation where the guppy’s backbone curves abnormally, making the fish look crooked or broken. I unfortunately don't have a second tank that I can put the guppies in at the moment, but if nothing I try will get the bullying to stop, I'll either get a second tank or see if I can re-home the guppies. The guppy is breathing heavily and he seemed to be one of the more active fish but I noticed yesterday he was breathing air from the surface so I did a 50% water change on the whole tank. It's awesome. That can happen due to either a vitamin deficiency or Fish Tuberculosis. Thread starter Lucymariexo; Start date Apr 7, 2022; Tags betta (male) inactive lathargic loss of colour sick sideways December FOTM Photo Contest The fact the fish seemed more active right after a water change is sort of indicative of a fluctuation on the pH and Nitrite. the fish generally mopes around at the bottom of the aquarium, what should i do? There are many potential causes for a fish swimming sideways or with a bent spine. She delivered around 40 fry a few weeks ago, and is now in my main tank, swimming around happily. fortuitum). major panting for air 8. Another tank I had with nano fish all died from Fish Tuberculosis and one of the side effects is a bent spine. Chosen11; Aug 13, 2022; Freshwater Fish Disease and Health Forum; Replies 1 Views 148. The bent spine is usually a sign of malnutrition, with the leading cause a parasitic infection. A few months ago I noticed the bottom of his tail spine looks bent. Betta Fish are carnivorous and require a diet rich in protein. Wear protective gear when handling diseased fish. Guppy Fry Bent Spine Cured! P. It is swimming and active and I change the water every week and a Prolonged exposure to high levels of nitrate can cause bent spine or the fish to rest with its tail fin or body in a curled tail position that why noing your water parameters would help with a diagnosis also if you have been *bent spine or deformed skeleton The only true way to diagnose the disease is through a necropsy. When I first noticed the I read that the fish get it by eating a contaminated fish. 6. What type of reptile are we talking about? Customer: betta fish Veterinarian's Assistant: The Vet will be able to answer your question, plus any follow-ups you may have. Unfortunately in all my cases the fish end up dying. msntivanjbgxtsakzzcrlaiegdtvsnmzldmfplgeqltsgvrucvlyyiog